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Title: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2021, 17:19:05
https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M (https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M)

This is all to do with Labour MP Rosie Duffield pointing out that only a woman has a cervix and a vagina.

Starmer has refused to back her, and as a result she is staying away from the party conference for fear of retribution.

Marr should have asked Starmer .......who else has a cervix and vagina other than women?


Madness. :-\
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2021, 17:22:27
https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M (https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M)

This is all to do with Labour MP Rosie Duffield pointing out that only a woman has a cervix and a vagina.

Starmer has refused to back her, and as a result she is staying away from the party conference for fear of retribution.

Marr should have asked Starmer .......who else has a cervix and vagina other than women?


Madness. :-\
Yes, unelectable madness  :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2021, 17:27:24
He is a regular contributor to Pink News. :-X
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2021, 17:28:51
He is a regular contributor to Pink News. :-X
Along with the gobshite Raynor he's doing a great job of making Corbyn look attractive as leader   ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 September 2021, 17:34:16
https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M (https://youtu.be/Jn9ANrLWM3M)

This is all to do with Labour MP Rosie Duffield pointing out that only a woman has a cervix and a vagina.

Starmer has refused to back her, and as a result she is staying away from the party conference for fear of retribution.

Marr should have asked Starmer .......who else has a cervix and vagina other than women?


Madness. :-\
Wokists, diversists and leftists probably all meet the criteria by virtue of being total knuts :-X
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2021, 17:36:21
Reading between the lines Starmer is saying that conference is a safe place for Rosie to attend.......so long as she leaves her bigoted transphobic views behind. MEN CAN HAVE A FANNY AND A CERVIX TOO. :D :-X :-\

WTF has happened to the Labour party?

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2021, 17:46:12
Reading between the lines Starmer is saying that conference is a safe place for Rosie to attend.......so long as she leaves her bigoted transphobic views behind. MEN CAN HAVE A FANNY AND A CERVIX TOO. :D :-X :-\

WTF has happened to the Labour party?
In a desperate attempt to attract support, it's become the party of the wokist nutter. Long may it continue, they can't change the law from where they sit.

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 September 2021, 18:16:33
I seriously suspect its dying. If a new party which connected with working class people came along Labour would disappear.
It could have been UKIP but they were more interested in arguing amongst themselves - peoples front of Judea V Judean peoples front style.
It might have been Change UK but Farage was burnt out, and left them to it, so now looks unlikely.
It may happen in the next few years though.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Rangie on 26 September 2021, 18:24:21
No of course he's not insane he's got the answer to every problem the  UK is facing , daft c**t.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 September 2021, 18:27:54
I seriously suspect its dying. If a new party which connected with working class people came along Labour would disappear.
It could have been UKIP but they were more interested in arguing amongst themselves - peoples front of Judea V Judean peoples front style.
It might have been Reform UK but Farage was burnt out, and left them to it, so now looks unlikely.
It may happen in the next few years though.

Change UK was Anna Soubry's anti Brexit party.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Nick W on 26 September 2021, 20:02:26
No of course he's not insane he's got the answer to every problem the  UK is facing , daft c**t.


He's not insane, just facing the same level of stupidity that led the Conservative Party to gamble on a Brexit referendum. The thing is that his lunatic fringe has equally risible, but very different objectives.


And he has pissed away his easy start(taking on Boris during lockdown was like shooting fish in a barrel, but not loading the gun) by not clamping down on the party's nutters and coming up with some policies that lead to an election manifesto. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, because he's a technocrat not a leader. He would have been better as the deputy leader who was hated for pushing through electable policies and discipline - something both parties have been missing for at least a decade.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2021, 20:08:58
No of course he's not insane he's got the answer to every problem the  UK is facing , daft c**t.


He's not insane, just facing the same level of stupidity that led the Conservative Party to gamble on a Brexit referendum. The thing is that his lunatic fringe has equally risible, but very different objectives.


And he has pissed away his easy start(taking on Boris during lockdown was like shooting fish in a barrel, but not loading the gun) by not clamping down on the party's nutters and coming up with some policies that lead to an election manifesto. Which shouldn't surprise anyone, because he's a technocrat not a leader. He would have been better as the deputy leader who was hated for pushing through electable policies and discipline - something both parties have been missing for at least a decade.
The Tories seem to have enough electable policies, that's why they keep getting elected. Mind you, they only really need one....not being Labour.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 27 September 2021, 10:42:32
I haven't quite grasped the importance of this whole "trans" thing yet but there seems to be a huge thrust  by the members of that community in politics  as a whole .....
From the importance that it seems to be being given by some parties it would imply that there is an enormous assemblage of confused cross dressers living amongst you all over there , certainly enough to warrant political parties wooing their votes .
Now being comfortably ensconced deep in the mountains of SW Ireland I dont seem to encounter too many of that ilk, although I thought I detected a slight 12 o'clock shadow on big Clodagh the postmistress on Saturday .... .
Scotland , in particular , seems to be teetering on the edge of a shoogely  stilletto abyss with the importance of cowering to the peculiar " rights " of this over vociferious amalgamation.
In this era of over amplified offence by social media I just don't see why any political party should be so overtly concerned about the sexual orientation of a group rather than the more obviously important difficulties that seem to be facing the country in the immediate and long term future .

After watching SKS on the the Andrew Marr show yesterday he confirmed my belief that he is impuissant, ineffectual and rudderless .
A man that knows he doomed to be another chapter in the history of Labours demise .
And as for that gobshite Rayner ......
It fills me with despair because every democracy needs a strong sensible opposition and that does not exist in any of the four corners of the UK .
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 11:22:08
Impuissant eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 13:07:58
I haven't quite grasped the importance of this whole "trans" thing yet but there seems to be a huge thrust  by the members of that community in politics  as a whole .....
From the importance that it seems to be being given by some parties it would imply that there is an enormous assemblage of confused cross dressers living amongst you all over there , certainly enough to warrant political parties wooing their votes .
Now being comfortably ensconced deep in the mountains of SW Ireland I dont seem to encounter too many of that ilk, although I thought I detected a slight 12 o'clock shadow on big Clodagh the postmistress on Saturday .... .
Scotland , in particular , seems to be teetering on the edge of a shoogely  stilletto abyss with the importance of cowering to the peculiar " rights " of this over vociferious amalgamation.
In this era of over amplified offence by social media I just don't see why any political party should be so overtly concerned about the sexual orientation of a group rather than the more obviously important difficulties that seem to be facing the country in the immediate and long term future .

After watching SKS on the the Andrew Marr show yesterday he confirmed my belief that he is impuissant, ineffectual and rudderless .
A man that knows he doomed to be another chapter in the history of Labours demise .
And as for that gobshite Rayner ......
It fills me with despair because every democracy needs a strong sensible opposition and that does not exist in any of the four corners of the UK .



I grew up with Labour leaders Wilson and Callaghan.

They would talk about shipbuilders, dockers, miners, builders......and members of the working class in general.

There was never any 'tranny talk' or ambiguity about the definition of the word woman. It appears that Starmer has no understanding of female biology. :-\



 
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 13:23:35
It seems like shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves is also delusional.

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1442439606608318466 (https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1442439606608318466)


Probably edited for effect but still funny. ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 13:34:12
Yesterday the low fuel light started to flash.

I put forty quid in......about half a tank.

Wrong thread.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: ronnyd on 27 September 2021, 16:07:30
I haven't quite grasped the importance of this whole "trans" thing yet but there seems to be a huge thrust  by the members of that community in politics  as a whole .....
From the importance that it seems to be being given by some parties it would imply that there is an enormous assemblage of confused cross dressers living amongst you all over there , certainly enough to warrant political parties wooing their votes .
Now being comfortably ensconced deep in the mountains of SW Ireland I dont seem to encounter too many of that ilk, although I thought I detected a slight 12 o'clock shadow on big Clodagh the postmistress on Saturday .... .
Scotland , in particular , seems to be teetering on the edge of a shoogely  stilletto abyss with the importance of cowering to the peculiar " rights " of this over vociferious amalgamation.
In this era of over amplified offence by social media I just don't see why any political party should be so overtly concerned about the sexual orientation of a group rather than the more obviously important difficulties that seem to be facing the country in the immediate and long term future .

After watching SKS on the the Andrew Marr show yesterday he confirmed my belief that he is impuissant, ineffectual and rudderless .
A man that knows he doomed to be another chapter in the history of Labours demise .
And as for that gobshite Rayner ......
It fills me with despair because every democracy needs a strong sensible opposition and that does not exist in any of the four corners of the UK .

Therin lies the problem, a lot of them haven't got one.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 18:35:35
I haven't quite grasped the importance of this whole "trans" thing yet but there seems to be a huge thrust  by the members of that community in politics  as a whole .....
From the importance that it seems to be being given by some parties it would imply that there is an enormous assemblage of confused cross dressers living amongst you all over there , certainly enough to warrant political parties wooing their votes .
Now being comfortably ensconced deep in the mountains of SW Ireland I dont seem to encounter too many of that ilk, although I thought I detected a slight 12 o'clock shadow on big Clodagh the postmistress on Saturday .... .
Scotland , in particular , seems to be teetering on the edge of a shoogely  stilletto abyss with the importance of cowering to the peculiar " rights " of this over vociferious amalgamation.
In this era of over amplified offence by social media I just don't see why any political party should be so overtly concerned about the sexual orientation of a group rather than the more obviously important difficulties that seem to be facing the country in the immediate and long term future .

After watching SKS on the the Andrew Marr show yesterday he confirmed my belief that he is impuissant, ineffectual and rudderless .
A man that knows he doomed to be another chapter in the history of Labours demise .
And as for that gobshite Rayner ......
It fills me with despair because every democracy needs a strong sensible opposition and that does not exist in any of the four corners of the UK .

Therin lies the problem, a lot of them haven't got one.  ;)

Now now, Ronny. A woman with a dick and balls is  as much of a woman as one with a fanny, in 2021. ::) ::) ::)

That nice Mr Starmer tells us it is so. :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 September 2021, 18:50:16
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 18:57:10
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 18:59:44
I forgot sexist.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 September 2021, 19:05:26
I forgot sexist.
You misogynist ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 19:07:50
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D
That's why they got voted in  :y
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 September 2021, 19:36:46
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 19:40:29
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)
Oh oh.....he'll be pulling the end off it thinking about that  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 19:41:42
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)

Despite admitting to intercourse with  women of dubious character over the years, I would steer well clear of Angela.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 19:44:17
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)

Despite admitting to intercourse with  women of dubious character over the years, I would steer well clear of Angela.
Just who do you think you're kidding?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 19:45:56
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)

Despite admitting to intercourse with  women of dubious character over the years, I would steer well clear of Angela.
Just who do you think you're kidding?  ;D

Too gobby, and the accent. :)

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 19:50:05
Labour are having a great conference!  :y

Following Sir Starmer's cervical utterings and Gobshite Rayner's outburst, today Andy MacDonald (Who?) a shadow minister of something or other has resigned his frontbench post saying that the party is too divided.  :)

Meanwhile conference delegates have voted 70% in favour of a motion (supported by Starmer) against the new defence pact with Australia and the US.  ::)

It seems that not only are tories scum. They are also racist, bigoted, homophobic, and transphobic according to the fragrant Ms. Rayner. ;D

Imagine what she would be like after downing a couple of plastic bottles of Scrumpy Jack. :D

I suspect she'd chew you up and spit you out M'lud!  :)

Despite admitting to intercourse with  women of dubious character over the years, I would steer well clear of Angela.
Just who do you think you're kidding?  ;D

Too gobby, and the accent. :)
Then give her something to chew on  ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2021, 19:57:33
Mad mare Emily Thornberry is at it now. Give me strength. :-X

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824 (https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 27 September 2021, 20:25:16
I love it! They come across as a bunch of screaming loonies. Long may it continue  :y
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 September 2021, 23:12:35
Mad mare Emily Thornberry is at it now. Give me strength. :-X

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824 (https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824)

Her correct title is Lady Nugee, but she likes to keep that quiet for some reason.  ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 September 2021, 04:48:21
Mad mare Emily Thornberry is at it now. Give me strength. :-X

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824 (https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1442472425183010824)
She looks like she might know.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 13:48:27
This backward bint tells us it is 'factually inaccurate' to say that only women have a cervix, because men can also have a cervix. :-\ :-\

Whenever I hear crap like this  the children's fable  'The emperor's new clothes', comes to mind.  Many members at the Labour party conference are unable to see that the King is stark bollo*ck naked. :-X :-\

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2021, 14:42:35
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 15:05:19
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)

Are you aware that transmen are 'biological women' hence there is no shock horror they can give birth. Only women can give birth, only women have periods, only women have a cervix. Men can not give birth. It's really not rocket science.

Actually my views are in line with 99% of the population including 'gender critical feminists such as Germaine Greer and Rosie Duffield. These women are actually champions of 'women's rights' not more rights for biological men.

Despite women causing me much grief  over the years (most of it of a financial nature) I vey much like and enjoy women.

Biological men can identify as they like, I really don't care......but biology can not be dismissed as irrelevant and a man can never be a woman.


Peter Tatchell describes 'people' who come under the umbrella of the word 'woman'


he says there are 'trans women' and 'non trans women'


Think about that for a moment before you throw real women under the bus.



Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Rangie on 28 September 2021, 15:48:58
Going back to the original ? Insane topic,  I would imagine any politician who believes that they have the answer to our problems/situation at present are completely insane. Not a normal one amongst them.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 16:26:17
Going back to the original ? Insane topic,  I would imagine any politician who believes that they have the answer to our problems/situation at present are completely insane. Not a normal one amongst them.

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/ (https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/)

Does the OOF Mr Mackay have an opinion on this? ::)

At first I thought it was April 1st. ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Rangie on 28 September 2021, 16:49:38
Going back to the original ? Insane topic,  I would imagine any politician who believes that they have the answer to our problems/situation at present are completely insane. Not a normal one amongst them.

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/ (https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/)

Does the OOF Mr Mackay have an opinion on this? ::)

At first I thought it was April 1st. ;D
.   

Glad I'm well out of it, in my day men were men, will say no more because I just know I will offend some, not that I really give a f**k.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 16:58:46
Going back to the original ? Insane topic,  I would imagine any politician who believes that they have the answer to our problems/situation at present are completely insane. Not a normal one amongst them.

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/ (https://www.islandecho.co.uk/tory-mp-slams-hmp-isle-of-wight-as-gender-identity-badges-handed-out-to-sex-offenders/)

Does the OOF Mr Mackay have an opinion on this? ::)

At first I thought it was April 1st. ;D
.   

Glad I'm well out of it, in my day men were men, will say no more because I just know I will offend some, not that I really give a f**k.

My guess is the prisoners who identify as she/her or the even more camp 'ask me' will get rogered senseless in the shower. ::)

They may as well put a target on their back. :-X
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2021, 17:44:08
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies [/highlight]until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)

Are you aware that transmen are 'biological women' hence there is no shock horror they can give birth. Only women can give birth, only women have periods, only women have a cervix. Men can not give birth. It's really not rocket science.

Actually my views are in line with 99% of the population including 'gender critical feminists such as Germaine Greer and Rosie Duffield. These women are actually champions of 'women's rights' not more rights for biological men.

Despite women causing me much grief  over the years (most of it of a financial nature) I vey much like and enjoy women.

Biological men can identify as they like, I really don't care......but biology can not be dismissed as irrelevant and a man can never be a woman.


Peter Tatchell describes 'people' who come under the umbrella of the word 'woman'


he says there are 'trans women' and 'non trans women'


Think about that for a moment before you throw real women under the bus.


I was answering your original post to emphasis Transmen can give birth, so it is not just "women" who have a cervix and vagina.  Those individuals identify as masculine, but may go through a final female act to provide them and their partner with children.  THEIR CHOICE and one that does not effect you, so get over it!

As for "thinking about that", I have great personal experience of this subject going back 60+ years, studying at close quarters all the aspects of the Trans condition and can say there is a lot of ignorance about the issue, which Sir Starmer has touched on and wishes to rectify within his Party.  You are continually reflecting that ignorance, that thank goodness is declining and unlike you is recognising brain gender when assessing the whole persons persona.

Yes of course there are some individuals like the disgraced Germaine Greer who have a different viewpoint thinking she is helping us women's cause, but like with a number of her viewpoints she is out of touch with science and reality.

As for Peter Tatchell, he actually supports BOTH women's and transwomen rights, and has done for 50+ years, so why try and use him in the argument against trans people?  His comment about there are transwomen and non-transwomen is actually just stating fact, not trying to belittle, insult or purely mock as you do.

As I say, why go on about it when it does not affect you?!! ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 18:02:04
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies [/highlight]until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)

Are you aware that transmen are 'biological women' hence there is no shock horror they can give birth. Only women can give birth, only women have periods, only women have a cervix. Men can not give birth. It's really not rocket science.

Actually my views are in line with 99% of the population including 'gender critical feminists such as Germaine Greer and Rosie Duffield. These women are actually champions of 'women's rights' not more rights for biological men.

Despite women causing me much grief  over the years (most of it of a financial nature) I vey much like and enjoy women.

Biological men can identify as they like, I really don't care......but biology can not be dismissed as irrelevant and a man can never be a woman.


Peter Tatchell describes 'people' who come under the umbrella of the word 'woman'


he says there are 'trans women' and 'non trans women'


Think about that for a moment before you throw real women under the bus.


I was answering your original post to emphasis Transmen can give birth, so it is not just "women" who have a cervix and vagina.  Those individuals identify as masculine, but may go through a final female act to provide them and their partner with children.  THEIR CHOICE and one that does not effect you, so get over it!

As for "thinking about that", I have great personal experience of this subject going back 60+ years, studying at close quarters all the aspects of the Trans condition and can say there is a lot of ignorance about the issue, which Sir Starmer has touched on and wishes to rectify within his Party.  You are continually reflecting that ignorance, that thank goodness is declining and unlike you is recognising brain gender when assessing the whole persons persona.

Yes of course there are some individuals like the disgraced Germaine Greer who have a different viewpoint thinking she is helping us women's cause, but like with a number of her viewpoints she is out of touch with science and reality.

As for Peter Tatchell, he actually supports BOTH women's and transwomen rights, and has done for 50+ years, so why try and use him in the argument against trans people?  His comment about there are transwomen and non-transwomen is actually just stating fact, not trying to belittle, insult or purely mock as you do.

As I say, why go on about it when it does not affect you?!! ::) ::) ::)

So the primary and therefore most important women will be 'trans women' who are actually men.......and the secondary less important sub-section of women will be 'non-trans'........who are actually biological women. The type of women who have periods and can give birth.


He could have said there are women and trans women.......or even women and men who identify as women.However, he used the words he used to deliberately downplay the importance of real women.

I'm starting to wonder if he is even attracted to women and prefers men instead. ::) ::) ;D

 
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 September 2021, 18:05:26
Maybe because the chattering classes and the Guardianistas seem to think its the only thing in the world that is important and wont stop ramming the subject down everyones throat ?
Just be what you are / want to be and live and let live.
We dont need to constantly bang on about the subject, unless those involved are addicted to attention seeking and / or being a professional victim.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 September 2021, 18:22:45
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies [/highlight]until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)

Are you aware that transmen are 'biological women' hence there is no shock horror they can give birth. Only women can give birth, only women have periods, only women have a cervix. Men can not give birth. It's really not rocket science.

Actually my views are in line with 99% of the population including 'gender critical feminists such as Germaine Greer and Rosie Duffield. These women are actually champions of 'women's rights' not more rights for biological men.

Despite women causing me much grief  over the years (most of it of a financial nature) I vey much like and enjoy women.

Biological men can identify as they like, I really don't care......but biology can not be dismissed as irrelevant and a man can never be a woman.


Peter Tatchell describes 'people' who come under the umbrella of the word 'woman'


he says there are 'trans women' and 'non trans women'


Think about that for a moment before you throw real women under the bus.


I was answering your original post to emphasis Transmen can give birth, so it is not just "women" who have a cervix and vagina.  Those individuals identify as masculine, but may go through a final female act to provide them and their partner with children.  THEIR CHOICE and one that does not effect you, so get over it!

As for "thinking about that", I have great personal experience of this subject going back 60+ years, studying at close quarters all the aspects of the Trans condition and can say there is a lot of ignorance about the issue, which Sir Starmer has touched on and wishes to rectify within his Party.  You are continually reflecting that ignorance, that thank goodness is declining and unlike you is recognising brain gender when assessing the whole persons persona.

Yes of course there are some individuals like the disgraced Germaine Greer who have a different viewpoint thinking she is helping us women's cause, but like with a number of her viewpoints she is out of touch with science and reality.

As for Peter Tatchell, he actually supports BOTH women's and transwomen rights, and has done for 50+ years, so why try and use him in the argument against trans people?  His comment about there are transwomen and non-transwomen is actually just stating fact, not trying to belittle, insult or purely mock as you do.

As I say, why go on about it when it does not affect you?!! ::) ::) ::)


How can a biological woman and staunch feminist be disgraced for fighting for the rights of biological women?

As for being out of touch with science and reality, as far as Homo Sapiens goes, only biological women can give birth.

That is irrefutable.

Being trans doesn't change that. By your own definition, it is a mental issue not a biological one.

Turning your bits inside out (that works both ways) does not make you biologically anything other than how you were born, although it might make you feel better... (in itself not necessarily a bad thing).

But all the woke band wagon is doing is turning the traditional thinking majority against anything that's different or unusual.

Without all the woe is us BS, the vast majority of people don't have an issue with people being different or living their own lives as they choose. The objection, and ultimately hostility, comes from constantly being told that traditional tolerant beliefs are wrong, defunct, or worse an affront.

After 60 years of 'dealing' with being misgendered or whatever the current woke term is, you should be content to just be, well, content.

Obviously you aren't, but that's up to you, not anyone else, however Jurassic you might think people are in their beliefs.

Judge not, lest you be judged and all that.

Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 28 September 2021, 18:24:07
Maybe because the chattering classes and the Guardianistas seem to think its the only thing in the world that is important and wont stop ramming the subject down everyones throat ?
Just be what you are / want to be and live and let live.
We dont need to constantly bang on about the subject, unless those involved are addicted to attention seeking and / or being a professional victim.
As far as I am concerned, it's like the obesity crisis, and racism, and all the other things that are very important........to the BBC and the like.
I see it all on the news, but in my daily life it just doesn't matter.
My wife works in a left wing local authority, and I dare say all of the rules around these things are in place, but she doesn't actually come across it in her daily working life.
They are a tiny, tiny minority, given more airtime than is necessary, to push an agenda. It's as if these politicians are just playing devil's advocate for the sake of it, to bring meaning to their otherwise dull lives.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 28 September 2021, 18:25:39
God, when will you all stop whinging about other people's medical issues and going on, and on, and on, about those in society who were born with a brain gender different than what their bodies suggest they should have.  These threads repeat themselves now every few months.

Yes it is a well recognised condition by specialist and general medical professionals, that has been becoming far better understood over many decades since at least the 1930's.  That is why Gender Identity Clinics exist along with the support surgical services and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 is in existance.

Yes, TRANSMEN can have a cervix and vagina and, shock, horror, CAN give birth to live babies [/highlight]until they have the final gender reassignment operation.  TRANSWOMEN, once they have had the final gender reassignment operation, have a vagina but cannot reproduce, much to the long term distress of them with female brains since they were born, or before. 

So instead of trying hard to make fun and degrade those who have this unfortunate, life changing, condition, just either support them or just say nothing and stop causing them even greater distress than they are suffering all ready. Live and let live in your so perfect lives!! ::) ::) ::)

Are you aware that transmen are 'biological women' hence there is no shock horror they can give birth. Only women can give birth, only women have periods, only women have a cervix. Men can not give birth. It's really not rocket science.

Actually my views are in line with 99% of the population including 'gender critical feminists such as Germaine Greer and Rosie Duffield. These women are actually champions of 'women's rights' not more rights for biological men.

Despite women causing me much grief  over the years (most of it of a financial nature) I vey much like and enjoy women.

Biological men can identify as they like, I really don't care......but biology can not be dismissed as irrelevant and a man can never be a woman.


Peter Tatchell describes 'people' who come under the umbrella of the word 'woman'


he says there are 'trans women' and 'non trans women'


Think about that for a moment before you throw real women under the bus.


I was answering your original post to emphasis Transmen can give birth, so it is not just "women" who have a cervix and vagina.  Those individuals identify as masculine, but may go through a final female act to provide them and their partner with children.  THEIR CHOICE and one that does not effect you, so get over it!

As for "thinking about that", I have great personal experience of this subject going back 60+ years, studying at close quarters all the aspects of the Trans condition and can say there is a lot of ignorance about the issue, which Sir Starmer has touched on and wishes to rectify within his Party.  You are continually reflecting that ignorance, that thank goodness is declining and unlike you is recognising brain gender when assessing the whole persons persona.

Yes of course there are some individuals like the disgraced Germaine Greer who have a different viewpoint thinking she is helping us women's cause, but like with a number of her viewpoints she is out of touch with science and reality.

As for Peter Tatchell, he actually supports BOTH women's and transwomen rights, and has done for 50+ years, so why try and use him in the argument against trans people?  His comment about there are transwomen and non-transwomen is actually just stating fact, not trying to belittle, insult or purely mock as you do.

As I say, why go on about it when it does not affect you?!! ::) ::) ::)


How can a biological woman and staunch feminist be disgraced for fighting for the rights of biological women?

As for being out of touch with science and reality, as far as Homo Sapiens goes, only biological women can give birth.

That is irrefutable.

Being trans doesn't change that. By your own definition, it is a mental issue not a biological one.

Turning your bits inside out (that works both ways) does not make you biologically anything other than how you were born, although it might make you feel better... (in itself not necessarily a bad thing).

But all the woke band wagon is doing is turning the traditional thinking majority against anything that's different or unusual.

Without all the woe is us BS, the vast majority of people don't have an issue with people being different or living their own lives as they choose. The objection, and ultimately hostility, comes from constantly being told that traditional tolerant beliefs are wrong, defunct, or worse an affront.

After 60 years of 'dealing' with being misgendered or whatever the current woke term is, you should be content to just be, well, content.

Obviously you aren't, but that's up to you, not anyone else, however Jurassic you might think people are in their beliefs.

Judge not, lest you be judged and all that.
Absolutely  :y
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2021, 18:48:23
Speaking of Germaine Greer I feel quite sorry for her.

As Al says, she spends years fighting for the rights of 'fanny females' only to be told she is a transphobic bigoted dinosaur by modern feminists like Lisa Nandy and Dawn Butler  for refusing to agree that a trans woman is a woman.

Oh, the irony. ;D

Good on you Germaine.....(although I still don't fancy you) :y








Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 September 2021, 22:56:15
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then".  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: ronnyd on 28 September 2021, 23:57:27
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then".  ;D
I think some of the locals pronounce it Suffering Boredom. ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 12:55:52
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then
".  ;D

That is quite witty... ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 12:57:34
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then".  ;D
I think some of the locals pronounce it Suffering Boredom. ;)

Not exciting like Milton Keynes or Slough then. :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 September 2021, 17:03:18
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then".  ;D


Oh yes, she is known to be a fiery, nasty individual when she gets going and that is just one of the reasons you do not hear about her too much these days.  If she does not agree with something that is contrary to her point of view, stand back and watch her firebrand reputation come out.

As a women I support her stance on women's liberation, but she can go too far.  Not many men on here, especially Opti, could be in the same room on here as she places men into a stereotype form and, for instance, classes all men as rapists and controllers of women that we should break free off.  She could be right on that one! ;D ;D ;D

But her views on transgendered women have placed her outside of modern thinking.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 29 September 2021, 17:05:51
Off topic a but but......a good friend of mine restored a large Victorian garden in Saffron Walden (near where Ms Greer lives apparently), and despite the fact he was past retirement age when he started he did a magnificent job.
He got the local probation service to provide him with labour via people who were sentenced to community service and apparently gave several of them a love of garden by involving them in his project.
When it was finished he was summoned to Buck house to be given an O.B.E for his efforts.
Not long after he was asked if he would give Germaine a guided tour of the gardens and explain what he had done.
The whole way around the tour he said she was absolutely vile. "why the F*** did you do it like that you stupid c*** ?
Are you f****** retarded you f****** moron, blah blah blah.
A year or so later he was in the restaurant at a local theatre and asked why it seemed very busy that night.
Someone said "Germaine Greer is giving a talk tonight".
He replied " you would have to be mad to pay money hear that vile woman speak".
Woman at the next table leans over and says to him "your not a fan of my sister then".  ;D


Oh yes, she is known to be a fiery, nasty individual when she gets going and that is just one of the reasons you do not hear about her too much these days.  If she does not agree with something that is contrary to her point of view, stand back and watch her firebrand reputation come out.

As a women I support her stance on women's liberation, but she can go too far.  Not many men on here, especially Opti, could be in the same room on here as she places men into a stereotype form and, for instance, classes all men as rapists and controllers of women that we should break free off.  She could be right on that one! ;D ;D ;D

But her views on transgendered women have placed her outside of modern thinking.
I'd just punch her in the face and have done with it, silly old cow  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 September 2021, 17:12:42
For those interested on here (which is doubtful given the content and the 99.9% of men on here) this is an interesting article:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/09/germaine-greer-on-rape-book-three-women-respond

 :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 17:29:33
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Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 29 September 2021, 17:30:33
r  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 17:31:51
r  ;D

Wot u doin scouser? ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 17:40:27
http://https://youtu.be/7B8Q6D4a6TM

Sigh....As old Lizzie has dug up Germaine Greer again.

Apparently Kirsty has sagging tits according to Ms. Greer. ;D

I disagree with GG on almost everything because I like women to be feminine cute and submissive rather than hairey-arsed, gobby, and strident like her.

 She is right on this point though.......although she is rarely allowed to speak these days simply because she believes a man can not be a woman. :-\
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 29 September 2021, 17:44:10
r  ;D

Wot u doin scouser? ;D
Same as you, yokel  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 17:53:15
r  ;D

Wot u doin scouser? ;D
Same as you, yokel  ;D

Show some respect you scouse reprobate. The correct term is 'carrot cruncher' not yokel.... ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 29 September 2021, 18:07:45
Talking of Starmer, why is the BBC, or anyone, so fascinated by what he's got to say at conference? It's 2 years 8 months till the next general election, and there's a fair chance he won't even be leader by then.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 18:14:22
Talking of Starmer, why is the BBC, or anyone, so fascinated by what he's got to say at conference? It's 2 years 8 months till the next general election, and there's a fair chance he won't even be leader by then.

You already know the answer to that.

Pretty gushing review for the great man. :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 September 2021, 18:20:28
Talking of Starmer, why is the BBC, or anyone, so fascinated by what he's got to say at conference? It's 2 years 8 months till the next general election, and there's a fair chance he won't even be leader by then.

Might be sooner as they're going to repeal the Fixed Term Parliament Act.  If Boris spots an opportunity?  ???  ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 September 2021, 18:32:26
Talking of Starmer, why is the BBC, or anyone, so fascinated by what he's got to say at conference? It's 2 years 8 months till the next general election, and there's a fair chance he won't even be leader by then.

Might be sooner as they're going to repeal the Fixed Term Parliament Act.  If Boris spots an opportunity?  ???  ;)

Bojo is an inept comical buffoon. He really shouldn't be allowed out without adult supervision.

However, given the choice I would choose him over Starmer.

Starmer is so dull I bet he drives something like an Astra derv, ::) ::) and only f*ucks in the missionary position. :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 September 2021, 20:15:41
Correct me if I'm wrong.... but I don't think I heard anything from anyone in the Labour Party at their conference this week calling for the haulage industry to improve pay and conditions for drivers?  ???   Nor anyone from the Trade Unions come to that!  ::)

Sir Starmer did say he'd issue 100,000 visas for foreign drivers which I'm sure the haulage bosses and the RHA were happy to hear, but the only people this week urging industry to pay workers better have been Boris, Grant Shapps and Kwasi Kwateng of the Conservative Party!  :o  ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 29 September 2021, 20:47:34
Correct me if I'm wrong.... but I don't think I heard anything from anyone in the Labour Party at their conference this week calling for the haulage industry to improve pay and conditions for drivers?  ???   Nor anyone from the Trade Unions come to that!  ::)

Sir Starmer did say he'd issue 100,000 visas for foreign drivers which I'm sure the haulage bosses and the RHA were happy to hear, but the only people this week urging industry to pay workers better have been Boris, Grant Shapps and Kwasi Kwateng of the Conservative Party!  :o  ::)
100,000 visas will be no good in 2024  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 September 2021, 20:57:01
That's no surprise. The only thing unions worry about is their subscriptions. The last thing they actually care about is protecting those members.

Basically they rely on fear and outrage to justify their existence much like paying protection money to the Mob so they don't send their mates round to break everything... Employees and employers would be much better served without them :-X
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 September 2021, 21:08:29
That's no surprise. The only thing unions worry about is their subscriptions. The last thing they actually care about is protecting those members.

Basically they rely on fear and outrage to justify their existence much like paying protection money to the Mob so they don't send their mates round to break everything... Employees and employers would be much better served without them :-X

One morning sat in a Sainsburys transport office waiting for a load with about 20 other blokes, a couple of union reps came in and were dishing out ballot papers to their members for some election or other.  Several blokes told the reps that they didn't know anyone on the ballot paper, so didn't know who to vote for, to which they were told to "vote for 'Joe Bloggs' as he's a good bloke!"  ::)

I called out "There's democracy at work Brothers!" which caused quite a laugh!  ;D  Not from the union fellas though who looked pretty pissed off at me!  :D

I was quite careful around that depot not to be on my own for a while!  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Rangie on 29 September 2021, 21:54:28
I belonged to COHSE when I was in the Ambulance Service I found them to be useless when required, however a completely different story in the Prison Service the POA were excellent & did their utmost for their members.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 13:39:13
The Labour party was founded in 1900, and for many years had a purpose.

Poor people in 1900, when women and working class men were not allowed the vote, were very badly treated by those who held the reins. You hear stories of men being killed in a pit disaster and then then their wife and children being thrown on the street because they were unable to pay the rent.

This type of scenario was why the Labour party was formed. The unions were also very necessary during this period.

I have voted Labour a couple of times but I do not recognise the Labour party of 2021.

The white working class are now seen as an uneducated embarrassment by the like of Starmer and Thornberry. Crude homophobic individuals who can barely write their name and should never be invited to the north London dinner parties so beloved by Starmer and his ilk. Not to worry though, Emma Thompson and other luvvies are always available to advise any future Labour government on policy.

The Labour party of 2021 is only interested in minorities......the bulk of any future vote will come from the gay, lesbian, black ( The Labour party loves BLM) and trans community.  They have fallen over themselves to show how woke and 'progressive' they are. They will also garner some support from crusty left wing academics. However, I really can't see this being enough.


I'm not a fan of bumbling Boris either but........ :-\.









Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 14:16:57
Get your teeth into this one, Opti  ;D

'Transgender inclusion, fairness and safety often cannot co-exist' says major review https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/58732146
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 14:42:05
You can read fairness and inclusion in the same sentence with sports such as darts or snooker.

If you are talking about football, rugby, athletics, or any sport that requires 'male strength' delete the word 'fairness' because it certainly isn't fair for 'real women'.....the type I am sexually attracted to. :)

FFS.... women and the word 'woman' are slowly being deleted in the insane quest for 'inclusion'

Birthing people.......f*uck right off.
People or men with a cervix.....f*uck right off.
People who have periods.....f*uck right off.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 14:44:47
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 September 2021, 14:50:31
Life's not fair. Get over it and move on :D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 14:57:02
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:01:55
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:05:38
On a serious note, WTF will watch sports competitions that adhere to these rules? I might, for the comedy value, but I wouldn't consider it as 'sport'.

Politicians cannot seriously believe that the ordinary British public go along with this shite. Surely they realise that the majority of people just stay quiet, for fear of being labelled as racist or sexist, until the time comes to put an X in the box.
I think most people are not frightened or worried by the clamour for 'equality' in all things, I think they are more bemused, and see it as a phase, something which will pass. As long as it doesn't directly affect their lives, they ignore it.
Dangerous.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:08:40
Like these twąts who keep gluing themselves to the M25. They see themselves as messiahs, saving the world from itself. If only they knew what most people really thought of them. If I were them, I wouldn't do it on a dark night, with no police about.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:10:37
On a serious note, WTF will watch sports competitions that adhere to these rules? I might, for the comedy value, but I wouldn't consider it as 'sport'.

Politicians cannot seriously believe that the ordinary British public go along with this shite. Surely they realise that the majority of people just stay quiet, for fear of being labelled as racist or sexist, until the time comes to put an X in the box.
I think most people are not frightened or worried by the clamour for 'equality' in all things, I think they are more bemused, and see it as a phase, something which will pass. As long as it doesn't directly affect their lives, they ignore it.
Dangerous.

I'd like to see Tyson Fury fight an opponent who identifies as 'male'.

I'd put money on a first round KO.

I don't think even the 'inclusion and diversity' people are this stupid.......or are they. :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 September 2021, 15:12:11
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:12:16
Like these twąts who keep gluing themselves to the M25. They see themselves as messiahs, saving the world from itself. If only they knew what most people really thought of them. If I were them, I wouldn't do it on a dark night, with no police about.  ;D
Can you imagine the comments if one of them was actually splattered across the motorway? Social media would be full of laughing emoji's.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:13:24
Like these twąts who keep gluing themselves to the M25. They see themselves as messiahs, saving the world from itself. If only they knew what most people really thought of them. If I were them, I wouldn't do it on a dark night, with no police about.  ;D


https://youtu.be/4zpTIrx6uAA (https://youtu.be/4zpTIrx6uAA)

This is the brains of the outfit......so probably not much to worry about.
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:13:41
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Not me, I was very choosy about who I allowed to have the pleasure of my massive todger  :)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:14:58
Like these twąts who keep gluing themselves to the M25. They see themselves as messiahs, saving the world from itself. If only they knew what most people really thought of them. If I were them, I wouldn't do it on a dark night, with no police about.  ;D


https://youtu.be/4zpTIrx6uAA (https://youtu.be/4zpTIrx6uAA)

This is the brains of the outfit......so probably not much to worry about.
I'm not worried. Up here, the driver would just pull up, let his horse piss on them and move on.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:18:14
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Not me, I was very choosy about who I allowed to have the pleasure of my massive todger :)


Is this a euphemism for ......didn't get much pussy when younger because I was an ugly bastard? ;D ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:22:08
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Not me, I was very choosy about who I allowed to have the pleasure of my massive todger :)


Is this a euphemism for ......didn't get much pussy when younger because I was an ugly bastard? ;D ;D ;D
Certainly not, I was in great demand. Queues would form for the chance to sample my wares, so to speak.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:27:09
Hmmmmm.......from questioning Starmers sanity to the size of my knob. I'm quite surprised it took as long as six pages  ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:31:16
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Not me, I was very choosy about who I allowed to have the pleasure of my massive todger :)


Is this a euphemism for ......didn't get much pussy when younger because I was an ugly bastard? ;D ;D ;D
Certainly not, I was in great demand. Queues would form for the chance to sample my wares, so to speak.  ;D

Beat them off with a stick because of your film star looks. That seems unlikely. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: STEMO on 30 September 2021, 15:32:35
https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig (https://youtu.be/URz-RYEOaig)

This is satire but closer to reality than the woke 'progressives' would care to admit. :D
Looked quite feminine to me. I would.  ;D

Specsavers for you, old lad. :D :D ;D

In my youth I must admit I made some poor choices regarding who I had sex with.......but I'm sensible now. ::)
Haven't we all...  ::)
Not me, I was very choosy about who I allowed to have the pleasure of my massive todger :)


Is this a euphemism for ......didn't get much pussy when younger because I was an ugly bastard? ;D ;D ;D
Certainly not, I was in great demand. Queues would form for the chance to sample my wares, so to speak.  ;D

Beat them off with a stick because of you film star looks. That seems unlikely. ;D ;D
I had something much bigger than a stick  ;)
Title: Re: Is Starmer insane?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 September 2021, 15:36:33
Daniel Craig has seduced his last sexy spy as Bond.

Opportunity for you to take his place. :)