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cem_devecioglu

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Re: democracy....
« Reply #60 on: 03 June 2013, 13:59:46 »

I just hope to hell that the Turks don't go down the Syrian road!  :(

thanks for your wish Tigger :y
 
I dont think it will be like Syria, but its early to be sure and to say anything :-\

No, now perhaps not Cem.

To me, with the latest news that the protests are escalating and spreading to other cities away from Istanbul, it seems the form this is all taking is more like what transpired in Egypt with the ousting of their President.  What do you think Cem? ??? ???

there is a saying in my country " the elf genie left the bottle lamp"  , meaning we have left the point of no return behind..
 
the country become unstable to say the least..  including the justice system..  and most of the citizens lost their trust..
 
and that aside the pm is too stubborn .. so I expect things will get worse :-\
 
ps: he has now left the country for a "trip"

Fixed that for you. :y

thanks :y
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omega3000

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« Reply #61 on: 03 June 2013, 15:07:22 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters  :-\
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« Reply #62 on: 03 June 2013, 16:27:40 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters :-\

I have heard again on BBC he states they are "pillagers and looters" ;)
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #63 on: 03 June 2013, 16:44:14 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters  :-\


its everywhere  and pops up randomly.. and the news not telling the truth if they say radicals and looters :(


the protestors are composed of very different political views.  problem is as you can see the pm not listening anybody :(
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #64 on: 03 June 2013, 16:59:26 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters  :-\


its everywhere  and pops up randomly.. and the news not telling the truth if they say radicals and looters :(


the protestors are composed of very different political views. problem is as you can see the pm not listening anybody :(

No, he won't Cem, and typically of all political leaders when confronted by direct action protests they criminalise those involved.  It has happened repeatedly throughout the development of British democracy.  This is what Turkey, regretfully, must go through - the pain barrier - before the aims of the people are eventually achieved. :y :y
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« Reply #65 on: 03 June 2013, 17:16:23 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters  :-\


its everywhere  and pops up randomly.. and the news not telling the truth if they say radicals and looters :(


the protestors are composed of very different political views. problem is as you can see the pm not listening anybody :(

No, he won't Cem, and typically of all political leaders when confronted by direct action protests they criminalise those involved.  It has happened repeatedly throughout the development of British democracy.  This is what Turkey, regretfully, must go through - the pain barrier - before the aims of the people are eventually achieved. :y :y

People must stand up for their rights and not be dictated to , the masses have revolted . Pity the masses dont revolt in this country a bit more  >:(
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Lizzie_Zoom

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« Reply #66 on: 03 June 2013, 17:50:06 »

Hope the unrest is not near your home cem  :( Your president seems uninterested in the unrest and maybe thinks in time things will calm down . The news here says most unrest been caused by radicals and looters  :-\


its everywhere  and pops up randomly.. and the news not telling the truth if they say radicals and looters :(


the protestors are composed of very different political views. problem is as you can see the pm not listening anybody :(

No, he won't Cem, and typically of all political leaders when confronted by direct action protests they criminalise those involved.  It has happened repeatedly throughout the development of British democracy.  This is what Turkey, regretfully, must go through - the pain barrier - before the aims of the people are eventually achieved. :y :y

People must stand up for their rights and not be dictated to , the masses have revolted . Pity the masses dont revolt in this country a bit more >:(

But we have over the decades / centuries.  In modern times remember the Newbury Cruise Missiles Protest; the Miners Strike; Poll Tax Riots; Iraq War marches; the Northfleet Power Station protest and many more various protests by local groups over roads, railway lines, etc, etc. ;) ;)
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« Reply #67 on: 03 June 2013, 19:11:44 »

When are the next elections due Cem?  ??? 

Hopefully it's not long and the people of Turkey will get the chance to peacefully remove the PM Erdogan and his government via the ballot box....  :-\
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« Reply #68 on: 03 June 2013, 19:14:14 »

Pity the masses dont revolt in this country a bit more  >:(

I think the masses couldn't be more revolting in this country!!  :)
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #69 on: 03 June 2013, 19:25:45 »

When are the next elections due Cem?  ??? 

Hopefully it's not long and the people of Turkey will get the chance to peacefully remove the PM Erdogan and his government via the ballot box....  :-\

nearly a year after.. but under  those conditions, there wont be an honest election.. :( if there will be :-\
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« Reply #70 on: 03 June 2013, 19:31:36 »

its been 3 days I'm very angry .. after watching the events and what police had done..

in my opinion if someone in your face uses violence against you , the answer must be stronger.. 

this is not a game where you shout and gassed and hit..  if you want to get rid of these people

there is only one way.. either you shoot them or they shoot you..  >:(
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« Reply #71 on: 03 June 2013, 20:53:14 »

democracy don't come cheap .
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #72 on: 04 June 2013, 14:40:48 »

I'm sorry to share these.. :(  but I thought I have to.. (anyway you may watch them on British media later)
 
results of police violence in İstanbul.. this a mosque converted to a temporary hospital by protestors..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4iACzh4Q0
 
the woman talking is a doctor and says the gas is different kind than a usual tear gas or pepper gas whatever
 
 
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« Reply #73 on: 04 June 2013, 19:34:18 »

 :o I dont think they will show that on our tv cem , bit too gory . Shocking all the same though ,
Not seen the news today , has it quietened down yet  :-\
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #74 on: 04 June 2013, 22:05:01 »

:o I dont think they will show that on our tv cem , bit too gory . Shocking all the same though ,
Not seen the news today , has it quietened down yet :-\

nope..  today there were funerals in some southern cities..    ankara and istanbul is same , despite the rain..
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