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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #15 on: 05 February 2009, 10:44:26 »

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Pathetic!  why would anyone choose to take offence?  
The player in question is Frenchman Gael Monfils,  the hair has a vague similarity to the child's toy!

Some royals are often referred to as looking like horses.  People with a certain hairstyle are said to resemble Hitler (nice!).

Its about time people who have no reason to take offence STOP taking offence on behalf of others - those others who generally don't!

Get off your high-princess anne!


I can see why she called him that - mad hair in some pictures
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #16 on: 05 February 2009, 11:24:31 »

My understanding.........is that Carol Thatcher made these remarks in PRIVATE.....We can......and all do say what we wish in PRIVATE.

There are many things ....I may say amongst friends in PRIVATE.....that I would not dream of saying in public.

What I' am more concerned about is that some very PC person....took it upon himself to make a PRIVATE informal chat public.

I hear that this person is Adrian Chiles.........but this has not been confirmed. :y
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« Reply #17 on: 05 February 2009, 13:02:33 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.

Bring back "Love thy Neighber" to TV.

Anyone remember it.  It was bloody hillarious. ;D ;D

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #18 on: 05 February 2009, 15:57:20 »

I think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.

Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.

Any joke, sketch, skit if you will,  to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.

I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #19 on: 05 February 2009, 15:59:16 »

You know what REALLY makes me laugh......

Listen to any black rapper "sing" and its all "ni&&er" this and "white trash" that.....

Yet if any white person used the term "ni&&er" it would be deemed extremely racist yet they are ok to use it themselves.......

Alot of people I know think that black people can be the most racist people on the planet.....

Look at Naomi Campbell.......accused the airport staff of racism just because of losing her baggage at Terminal 5 and then got violent ........

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« Reply #20 on: 05 February 2009, 16:57:51 »

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I think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.

Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.

Any joke, sketch, skit if you will,  to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.

I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.


 ;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #21 on: 05 February 2009, 17:33:44 »

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I think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.

Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.

Any joke, sketch, skit if you will,  to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.

I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.


 ;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D

Animal Farm was better,in my view. :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #22 on: 05 February 2009, 18:16:45 »

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I think the way things are going is that almost any term used meant with malice or humor can be taken as offensive or disrespectful.

Almost all humor can be derived from misfortune. Observational comedy will soon be limited/restricted.

Any joke, sketch, skit if you will,  to be broadcast in the future, will have to go through a strict pre-approval. Censorship if you will.
I understand and appreciate this process is (should) done at present, but to a limited degree. It will get to a point where the very humor itself will be removed from the material. Pretty much destroying comedy.

I can certainly see traces of 1983 appearing.


 ;D ;D ;D That`d be Orwell`s first draft then? ;D ;D ;D

Animal Farm was better,in my view. :-* :-* :-*


i like a good porn film, but i find that sort of film disgusting. but whatever floats yer boat i always say  ;) ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #23 on: 05 February 2009, 18:24:17 »

I say abolish the licence fee and bring the whole gravy train to a halt.
I would like to see the linen suited sandal wearing gaurdian reading champagne socialist thought police who run the BBC try to survive in the real business world.
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« Reply #24 on: 05 February 2009, 18:40:55 »

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I say abolish the licence fee and bring the whole gravy train to a halt.
I would like to see the linen suited sandal wearing gaurdian reading champagne socialist thought police who run the BBC try to survive in the real business world.

Not a fan then? ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #25 on: 05 February 2009, 19:49:11 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.


They took the piss out of everyone - as they said, Indians born and brought up in the UK have a unique view point of both cultures.  and pretty funnyPersonally I think the Kumar lot are good writers

Well you won't see it again because the writer ,Sharat Sardana , died last week. :(
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #26 on: 05 February 2009, 20:02:40 »

Its only racist if the intent was to be descending.

I do think some people use any excuse to say something is racist/sexist/ageist etc.

I'm well known on here for calling people gay.  I like to think that everyone on here knows its in no may derogatory to anyone - I have plenty of gay friends (oddly, one of them was what got me into Omegas). I'm far from homophobic.

I sit next to an Asian guy at work - he tends to look after OOF server when I'm not around - and call him every name under the sun.  Whatever I call him, it ain't racist.


Some people complain purely for their own gain or ego - I'll class that ugly bitch whos always on the BBC from Liberty in that.  Or is calling a specific Asian woman ugly racist?
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« Reply #27 on: 05 February 2009, 20:54:38 »

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Its only racist if the intent was to be descending.

I do think some people use any excuse to say something is racist/sexist/ageist etc.
I'm well known on here for calling people gay.  I like to think that everyone on here knows its in no may derogatory to anyone - I have plenty of gay friends (oddly, one of them was what got me into Omegas). I'm far from homophobic.

I sit next to an Asian guy at work - he tends to look after OOF server when I'm not around - and call him every name under the sun.  Whatever I call him, it ain't racist.


Some people complain purely for their own gain or ego - I'll class that ugly bitch whos always on the BBC from Liberty in that.  Or is calling a specific Asian woman ugly racist?


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« Reply #28 on: 05 February 2009, 21:20:03 »

the comment was made in the green room of the one show, BBC have said this whilst this was not publically broadcast it was done in a place of work and so comes under bully and harassment in the workplace....

So its ok for a self opinionated, self obsessed prick like Ross to publically humiliate a respected actor and his grand daughter on the air, finally giving an apology, but it is not ok for a researcher to make a comment in the privacy of a closed environment.

Double standards, but then that is typical of the BBC
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« Reply #29 on: 05 February 2009, 21:50:06 »

Dont like the term golliwog at all when used in reference to "black"people,but ffs I used to collect Robinson golly figures/badges(and recall that bassist in Magazine who was black wore a guitar golly badge) as a kid, even had a golliwog hand knitted soft toy that was one of my favourites, and one of my favourite books was "little Black Samba" by Helen Bannerman. In fact recently got a reprinted copy of this on Amazon. Do some research about the book and youll see that (albeit renamed to get rid of any inferred racism) the book sold well to black communities and in fact the story itself is not racist. Still hate the term in ref to actual black people as find it offensive, but to me just think of Robinson figures!!By the way, always hated The Black And White Minstrel Show, which was racist and was crap.
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