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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #75 on: 06 February 2009, 17:07:32 »

Shouldn't that be "a lumenescently challenged room"  ::)
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« Reply #76 on: 06 February 2009, 17:49:48 »

I used to go to bed with a golliwog so there ;D
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« Reply #77 on: 06 February 2009, 19:27:02 »

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its got f-ck all to do with racism, its about world order! ( hold on )
all this 'dangle berries' written by the media is to make every one scared to say anything, i hear it every day cant smack yer kids , dont say anything offensive, cos ya will get knicked, and now we are scared to say anything! its f-cking brain washing,

black white gay straight  if your a c-nt your a c-nt an i will let ya know!
if your ok then your ok,

english people should be f-cking ashamed ov themselfs for letting all this sh-t go on,

f-ck pc 'dangle berries'  its a f-cking joke that we have let this get this far!


got it in one. and brown is loving it.any excuse to put the english down it will be brought up for maximum publicity, any other race, cover it up. the british way of life is nearly over. brown and the eu have destroyed it. wonder how these muppets would have stood up to maggie. no chance. shes more of a man than the whole of the house of commons.  :(
Heres the next target of the pc brigade .....http://latestnews.virginmedia.com/news/uk/2009/02/06/clarkson_labels_pm_one_eyed_idiot and heres the best line from some unknown ar*e kissing polition"Most people here are proud that the Prime Minister is a Scot and believe him to be the right person to get the UK through this global economic crisis."

the comments by the media were "ckarkson is under fire"? by who?
who the f-ck gives a f-ck ! not me , he is a one eyed scotts c-nt and no f-cker wants him , so p-ss off brown ya wanger!

i watched the other post about the bbc not wanting to show ,the muslin riots , that lot can f-ck off as well! whats the matter with us english ? we are p-ssed on, taken the p-ss out ov and just stand back !
REALLY WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED HONESTLY !
 a glint of light was the british jobs for british workers thing !
its about f-cking time we stood up for ourselfs !
Over the top but I agree well said!
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #78 on: 07 February 2009, 07:27:33 »

Are you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?

I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.

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« Reply #79 on: 07 February 2009, 08:03:24 »

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Are you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?

I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.



thats ok, molly was white and she worked for the grace bros alongside  mr humphries  ;)
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« Reply #80 on: 07 February 2009, 09:31:01 »

At least all-this with Thatcher and Clarkson has got everbody talking; I love a nice mass-debate! ::)

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« Reply #81 on: 07 February 2009, 09:33:33 »

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At least all-this with Thatcher and Clarkson has got everbody talking; I love a nice masterbate! ::)

 ;D ;D


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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #82 on: 07 February 2009, 10:31:20 »

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jeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head -  :(

one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion

now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked

thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult

clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it  :o


Twisted logic, I'm afraid.

Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.

If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.

Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.

Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.

 

people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing

interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
 - whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the  airwaves nickbat :y

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« Reply #83 on: 07 February 2009, 10:36:04 »

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jeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head -  :(

one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion

now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked

thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult

clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it  :o


Twisted logic, I'm afraid.

Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.

If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.

Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.

Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.

 

people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing

interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
 - whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the  airwaves nickbat :y


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« Reply #84 on: 07 February 2009, 10:54:07 »

Out of the lot the person I like the most is Clarkson - he is so refreshing in the PC dominated world and is not afraid to make himself appear like a fool. And even when joking he seems to be talking sense.

Russel Brand I am afraid is just an irritating talentless berk. But then he is actually quite bright, or at least well read. I think when he has grown up he may be suitable for TV.

Jonathan Ross is an OK interviewer but is good on the film shows, I do like his enthusiasm though - he does play an act and part of it is to send himself up.

Carol Thatcher is basically mad but I do find her an interesting and likeable TV person, she is a traditional eccentric.

Gordon Brown - does his best to try to appear clever but to be honest I don't think he understands the economy, stealing money from pension funds was just downright evil and why did he not save during the boom years?

As to MPs I really hate - Wacky Jaquie, Ed 'dangle berries', Millipede, all proven to be untrustable.

I like a politician who says what he means and is not afraid of the image. This is why most people like Tony Benn regardless of their politics (we all have to thank him for keeping the Concorde project going), another favourite is Ken Clarke, but others I have found likeable are believe it or not Hague, Kennedy, Cable and Duncan*

* Not in that way of course!

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #85 on: 07 February 2009, 13:04:25 »

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Are you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?

I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.



thats ok, molly was white and she worked for the grace bros alongside  mr humphries  ;)

Are you talking about the legendary "Mrs Slocombe".......who always had a wet pussy .....that needed a stroke. ::) ::) ::) :y
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« Reply #86 on: 07 February 2009, 13:41:02 »

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Are you alowed to say 'golly' anymore?

I'm thinking of the Little Richard song.





thats ok, molly was white and she worked for the grace bros alongside  mr humphries  ;)

Are you talking about the legendary "Mrs Slocombe".......who always had a wet pussy .....that needed a stroke. ::) ::) ::) :y

i was a page boy at molly sugdens wedding you know  ;)
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« Reply #87 on: 07 February 2009, 14:36:29 »

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jeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head -  :(

one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion

now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked

thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult

clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it  :o


Twisted logic, I'm afraid.

Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.

If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.

Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.

Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.

 

people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing

interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
 - whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the  airwaves nickbat :y


I was using the present tense, Bannjaax. I think that to imply that being black is a deficiency in this day and age is insulting and patronising. Thus, to call someone black should not be a racist insult. By extrapolation, calling someone a golliwog is merely pulling their leg, primarily about their hairstyle. Thus, it is not racist.

There is an important issue here concerning Ross et al. Their comments were broadcast, and were intended to be broadcast. Thatcher's comments were in private, and should have stayed that way. If anyone on here says that they have never said anything in private that would embarrass them if made public, I would call them a liar. Plain and simple.  

Thus, the sanctions on Ross and Co. were justified. The sanction on Thatcher, which appears to be harsher, is not.
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« Reply #88 on: 07 February 2009, 14:40:02 »

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jeremy clarkson called gordon brown "a one-eyed, scottish twit"
apparently - and folk are calling for his head -  :(

one-eyed - true
scottish - true
twit - personal opinion

now, if brown was black, and he'd called him a one-eyed, scottish golliwog then he would be - rightly - sacked

thats the difference, when you don't have the intelligence to differentiate between a personal opinion which may or may not be shared by others, and a racist insult

clarkson is intelligent
thatcher is not - and proved it  :o


Twisted logic, I'm afraid.

Our Great Leader has one eye and Clarkson pointed that out in the remark. Having one eye means you are physically deficient. It is also obvious in your facial appearance. Clarkson's comment was derogatory, indeed he highlighting a handicap. I am not offended by it, and I don't suppose GB is either. You need a thick skin in politics.

If someone has black skin, it is not a deficiency like having one eye.

Add an afro hairdo and large round spectacles and that person will look like a Golliwog. You wouldn't call Barack Obama a golliwog, because he doesn't look like one. Therefore it is not a racist term, per se.

Neither Thatcher nor Clarkson are unintelligent.

 

people weren't bought and sold as slaves for having one eye, they weren't persecuted and denied rights - so its not the same thing

interesting peoples perspective on things (including me) - a lot of folk were calling for jonathan ross and russell brands heads - a lot of the same people now defending thatcher - so insulting behaviour is really down to whether you like the person or not?
i'll defend JC, JR and RB cos i find them witty and entertaining, whereas CT i can't stand so i call for her head - maybe its the annoying voice, the pompous, odious personality, the air of superiority
 - whatever - i'll concede that she is probably not racist - but she contributes nothing as far as i can see - so i'll happily shove her off the  airwaves nickbat :y


I was using the present tense, Bannjaax. I think that to imply that being black is a deficiency in this day and age is insulting and patronising. Thus, to call someone black should not be a racist insult. By extrapolation, calling someone a golliwog is merely pulling their leg, primarily about their hairstyle. Thus, it is not racist.

There is an important issue here concerning Ross et al. Their comments were broadcast, and were intended to be broadcast. Thatcher's comments were in private, and should have stayed that way. If anyone on here says that they have never said anything in private that would embarrass them if made public, I would call them a liar. Plain and simple.  

Thus, the sanctions on Ross and Co. were justified. The sanction on Thatcher, which appears to be harsher, is not.

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« Reply #89 on: 08 February 2009, 19:40:05 »

If you're black, white tall, thin, fat, short, curly, sraight hair, British, Scots, Welsh , Irish or from anywhere on the globe that's what or who you are & as said she only reffered to a haircut which in all honesty was a fair description. We need gobshites like Clarkson & others for a little entertainment. The world would be a dull place without them. I dislike many people but that's not based on thier origin simply whether i like them or not. The BBC hyped this, it did'nt need to go to the press in the first place.
    Don't forget we're paying the PC brigade to do this pointless job. ::)
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