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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Shackeng on 11 November 2014, 17:39:06
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
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Pfffff, tricky Shak. I think you'll struggle to get something simpler on a tablet. Presumably it's the touch screen that's causing issues? In which case you don't want a tablet at all.
But I guess it's important to understand exactly what the issues is first?
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Ooh can I have your Ipad?
Our Mk1 has a cracked screen . I actually quite like them.
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Tesco have brought out the Hudl 2 which is good according to a friend of my Mum. :y
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/11/which-is-the-best-tablet-for-christmas
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I was thinking of something with a removable keyboard, if that helps. My wife uses it almost exclusively for e-mail, and I ocsnly attempt to use it for internet access if we are away. :-\ :-\ :-\
I guess the main problems with it are that it is only used occasionally, so we never really get properly used to it, even though we've had it 3 or 4 years, but it really does have a mind of its own, e-mails disappear before you send them, web pages disappear as you look at them, so basically we want something that only does things when you specifically ask it to, like a PC. :y
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If you prefer windows 8 then try out the Nokia Lumia 2520 and power keyboard/case - basically a tablet detachable from a keyboard which includes 2 USB slots. These things were mega money a year ago - just bought the tablet for £217 on eBay brand new and £100 for keyboard from John Lewis.
I also have an ipad but we get issues with Microsoft Office documents etc. the Nokia is effectively a full blown laptop but offering a lightweight tablet without paying surface pro prices.
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Sounds like it needs some house keeping. I take it your shutting down all the opened apps now and then?
Try a reset. Clear the history and cache. Remove any old unused apps to give the minimal ram a chance and don't upgrade to ios8 or it will struggle.
And maybe a blutooth keyboard will help. Although there tends to be a bit of a delay between key presses and the screen responding if the ipad is struggling.
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I am pleased with my Sony Tablet S... Has an optional wireless key board and desk stand, neither of which I use a great deal, but do make for a mini laptop effect :y
Should add it has survived over two years abuse, including a couple of trips down the stairs ::)
Not exactly cheap, but neither is the gaypad :-\
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If you prefer windows 8 then try out the Nokia Lumia 2520 and power keyboard/case - basically a tablet detachable from a keyboard which includes 2 USB slots. These things were mega money a year ago - just bought the tablet for £217 on eBay brand new and £100 for keyboard from John Lewis.
I also have an ipad but we get issues with Microsoft Office documents etc. the Nokia is effectively a full blown laptop but offering a lightweight tablet without paying surface pro prices.
I use Win7 which I like. :y
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If you prefer windows 8 then try out the Nokia Lumia 2520 and power keyboard/case - basically a tablet detachable from a keyboard which includes 2 USB slots. These things were mega money a year ago - just bought the tablet for £217 on eBay brand new and £100 for keyboard from John Lewis.
I also have an ipad but we get issues with Microsoft Office documents etc. the Nokia is effectively a full blown laptop but offering a lightweight tablet without paying surface pro prices.
I use Win7 which I like. :y
It's effectively a tablet with a wireless key board. Which is exactly as suggested earlier, btw. ;)
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Sounds like it needs some house keeping. I take it your shutting down all the opened apps now and then?
Try a reset. Clear the history and cache. Remove any old unused apps to give the minimal ram a chance and don't upgrade to ios8 or it will struggle.
And maybe a blutooth keyboard will help. Although there tends to be a bit of a delay between key presses and the screen responding if the ipad is struggling.
We've done a reset before, we don't use any of the Apps, so I guess we could remove most of them which arrived with it courtesy of daughter. I'll try the history and cache, but as this has always been the same, I am not hopeful. :-\
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Sounds like it needs some house keeping. I take it your shutting down all the opened apps now and then?
Try a reset. Clear the history and cache. Remove any old unused apps to give the minimal ram a chance and don't upgrade to ios8 or it will struggle.
And maybe a blutooth keyboard will help. Although there tends to be a bit of a delay between key presses and the screen responding if the ipad is struggling.
We've done a reset before, we don't use any of the Apps, so I guess we could remove most of them which arrived with it courtesy of daughter. I'll try the history and cache, but as this has always been the same, I am not hopeful. :-\
Once they start messing around, you've had it. Mine is an old iPad 2, iOS 8 knackered it.
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Having said that, you'll be hard pushed to find a better tablet than an iPad. Buy a modern one, if you feel that you must have one.
I reckon I could get by with my galaxy 4 smartphone if I had to.
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My old ipad 1 stops at version 5.1 I think. It's the most up to date for that model anyway, and yes it was struggling, but I did revive it a bit, by deleting all the unused apps. And all the big apps, like Google Earth and Google maps which. Really upset it when open.
It's much much better. :y
Battey doctor has some diags apps that help too.
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Not out of the box it didn't. ;D
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Not out of the box it didn't. ;D
Its that bloody old, it never booted Windows 7 when it was taken out of the box ;D
But I can buy a decent laptop, and whatever else I need to achieve a sub 10s boot for less than the price of the cheapest full size iPad, and cheaper than a mid range iPad Mini.
I know what I'd rather have.
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Not out of the box it didn't. ;D
Its that bloody old, it never booted Windows 7 when it was taken out of the box ;D
But I can buy a decent laptop, and whatever else I need to achieve a sub 10s boot for less than the price of the cheapest full size iPad, and cheaper than a mid range iPad Mini.
I know what I'd rather have.
Yeah but here's the thing. Ready? Now listen carefully....
ITS NOT FOR YOU. ITS FOR MRS SHAKENG. :y ::)
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Not out of the box it didn't. ;D
Its that bloody old, it never booted Windows 7 when it was taken out of the box ;D
But I can buy a decent laptop, and whatever else I need to achieve a sub 10s boot for less than the price of the cheapest full size iPad, and cheaper than a mid range iPad Mini.
I know what I'd rather have.
Yeah but here's the thing. Ready? Now listen carefully....
ITS NOT FOR YOU. ITS FOR MRS SHAKENG. :y ::)
SHAKENG.? ;D
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Yeah but me and Steve know what I mean. ;D
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Well if iPad is the most intuitive tablet, then we might as well give up. :-\ :-\ :-\
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We don't seem to be getting anywhere here tbh. There would seem to be a problem with the ipad.
Have you closed all the apps? Double click the menu button. How many apps are open? You may need to scroll across to see them.
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Except this one... ::)
I presumably must rush out and buy an ipad just to find out how finnickety they are :-\
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iPad is the easiest, most stable and most intuitive of all the tablets TBH. Even the most hardened Android fan would have to agree.
I personally do not get on with tablets either, preferring a full blown Win7 laptop. Despite its age, it will boot from cold in 11s, so for me tablets hold no advantage, and are too compromised.
Except this one... ::)
I presumably must rush out and buy an ipad just to find out how finnickety they are :-\
He's talking about the os Al, not the over powering restrictive element that gets people's backs up. Including mine, to a point.
As an os, there's is nothing simpler than a menu button and a touch screen.
There may be a wifi issue, which does upset them, or some other reason it's playing up. It's easy to miss type too, not that you lot will of noticed any of that in day of my posts. ;) ;D
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I think speckled Jim is on tablet(s)
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My Mrs is profoundly technophobic. I got her an ASUS Tablet from PC World, sorry don't recall exact model, but it was around £100 and came in 3 colours, no fancy features like folding keyboards etc.
Dead easy, Android, and she loves it :y
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I think speckled Jim is on tablet(s)
Yes Speckled Jim is available via wifi. Prety useless without it ;D
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We don't seem to be getting anywhere here tbh. There would seem to be a problem with the ipad.
Have you closed all the apps? Double click the menu button. How many apps are open? You may need to scroll across to see them.
If the square button on the outside, bottom of screen, is the menu button, when I press that, there are 46 apps across the bottom, I presume that these are all the Apps on the iPad? How do I know if they are Open or not? :-\
I've just checked, there are 58 square Apps on the main screen, but some of those have other Apps inside them.
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My Mrs is profoundly technophobic. I got her an ASUS Tablet from PC World, sorry don't recall exact model, but it was around £100 and came in 3 colours, no fancy features like folding keyboards etc.
Dead easy, Android, and she loves it :y
That sounds ideal, is the Tesco Hudl similar do you think?
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We don't seem to be getting anywhere here tbh. There would seem to be a problem with the ipad.
Have you closed all the apps? Double click the menu button. How many apps are open? You may need to scroll across to see them.
If the square button on the outside, bottom of screen, is the menu button, when I press that, there are 46 apps across the bottom, I presume that these are all the Apps on the iPad? How do I know if they are Open or not? :-\
I've just checked, there are 58 square Apps on the main screen, but some of those have other Apps inside them.
If you've double pressed the menu button, with square symbol on it, then that opens the application manager.
Press and hold one of the apps. They will then start to jiggle, and a red " - " symbol will appear. Press this and that app will close. Repeat for all the apps you want to close, and I's suggest you want to close all of them at this stage, unless you are working on anything like email or using safari, finish your work, then close all the apps via the red minus symbol.
The user needs to do this regularly, or the device will eventually seize up and apps start crashing, as you have disvovered. :)
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In order to delete apps, that you no longer use. Press the main menu "square" button once, to show the main screen and all the app icons. Press and hold any one of the apps. Again they will start to jiggle, and an " x " will apear in the corner of each app. Touch the x and the option to delete the app, and all its info, will appear. You can then delete the app.
Don't worry if you delete something that you need again later, as you can download it again from the store for free as you have already paid for it.
In fact, it's best to use the store as a cloud service. Ie, only keep apps on the device that you use regularly. Delete and downloading other less used apps as when you need them.
Built in apps like email and Safari etc, can not be deleted. So don't worry too much about getting trigger happy. Delete away.
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Here is The user guide for ipad 1 or ios5.
Click the link and it will open. Top right will be an option to open in iBooks. Cluck that. Then the pdf guide will open in iBooks and it will be stored there. You can then view it anytime without needing a web connectio.
If "open in iBooks" is not visible, touch the top right hand corner of the pdf window, below the browser bar, and the option will re appear.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1632/en_US/ipad_ios5_user_guide.pdf
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Thanks for all that Chris, I'm sure it will all be useful. Whether it will teach it to be obedient and not go off on its own, I'll reserve judgement. :y :y :y
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Further, I would suggest reading some reviews on which tablets are best for you. As there is a very real danger of additional expense for a worse experience.
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Thanks for all that Chris, I'm sure it will all be useful. Whether it will teach it to be obedient and not go off on its own, I'll reserve judgement. :y :y :y
;D Shak I can assure you it won't do anything the user hasn't told it do by touching the screen. ;D
As said, ALL TABLETS have a touch screen. ALL of them. The definition of a tablet is that it does not have a hardware key board. Therefor the only way to input commands is via the touch screen.
If you want a keyboard, either buy or borrow a bluetooth wireless keyboard to go with the ipad, or consider a lap top type device....
Netbooks are cheap, but only come with one gig of ram(expandable memory that the system needs to run), if it doesn't have 2gig and most don't , all netbooks need 2gig, so tech support is needed at extra expense to add a 1 gig memory stick will be required, it is not straightforward for the user.
So, the ipad IS the best device for you. You just need to get used to it, and the touch screen and being carfefull how you handle it, and only touch the aluminated section of the glass display area when you want to command the device. The black surround or "bezel" is not touch sensative.
Practice practice :y
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Here is The user guide for ipad 1 or ios5.
Click the link and it will open. Top right will be an option to open in iBooks. Cluck that. Then the pdf guide will open in iBooks and it will be stored there. You can then view it anytime without needing a web connectio.
If "open in iBooks" is not visible, touch the top right hand corner of the pdf window, below the browser bar, and the option will re appear.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1632/en_US/ipad_ios5_user_guide.pdf
Cluck that? ;D ;D ;D
Classic.
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Thanks for all that Chris, I'm sure it will all be useful. Whether it will teach it to be obedient and not go off on its own, I'll reserve judgement. :y :y :y
;D Shak I can assure you it won't do anything the user hasn't told it do by touching the screen. ;D
As said, ALL TABLETS have a touch screen. ALL of them. The definition of a tablet is that it does not have a hardware key board. Therefor the only way to input commands is via the touch screen.
If you want a keyboard, either buy or borrow a bluetooth wireless keyboard to go with the ipad, or consider a lap top type device....
Netbooks are cheap, but only come with one gig of ram(expandable memory that the system needs to run), if it doesn't have 2gig and most don't , all netbooks need 2gig, so tech support is needed at extra expense to add a 1 gig memory stick will be required, it is not straightforward for the user.
So, the ipad IS the best device for you. You just need to get used to it, and the touch screen and being carfefull how you handle it, and only touch the aluminated section of the glass display area when you want to command the device. The black surround or "bezel" is not touch sensative.
Practice practice :y
I was using screens when I was flying which worked very well, you touched an icon button alongside its description, and it did exactly as advertised, which is certainly not always the case with this iPad.
As it is not mine, I very rarely use it, but I have an iPhone4 which is equally intransigent, and don't even start me on iTunes, which when I updated it onetime on my PC, completely screwed up Windows such that I had to restore the whole system, including Windows, from backup. >:So I guess I am basically anti-Apple products in general.
Nevertheless, I have deleted most of the Apps, the history and cache on the iPad, and will see how it goes. Thanks again.
PS You may well ask why we have these (Cr)Apple products, we 'inherit' them from my daughter who always has the latest Apple product, and as much as I complain to her about them, she still insists on giving the 'old' ones to us, generally saying we will find them easier to use! Wrong! I have an iPhone 5 sitting on my desk which I will probably never use, as I'm hoping she has forgotten that she was going to get it unlocked! :y :y :y
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Its that bloody old, it never booted Windows 7 when it was taken out of the box ;D
But I can buy a decent laptop, and whatever else I need to achieve a sub 10s boot for less than the price of the cheapest full size iPad, and cheaper than a mid range iPad Mini.
I know what I'd rather have.
Yeah but here's the thing. Ready? Now listen carefully....
ITS NOT FOR YOU. ITS FOR MRS SHAKENG. :y ::)
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Shackeng is more than capable of making a PC run well. Clearly the tablet format isn't working too great in the Shackeng household, and he is considering replacing for something else.
If an iPad is proving difficult to use, I'd bet Android is going to be more frustrating.
A fast laptop, sub £400, is a viable option, irrespective on your views about Microsoft and PCs ;)
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ffs... He's asking for advice on a tablet ::)
Bloody IT geeks, they all think everyone else knows or should know what they know ;D
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ffs... He's asking for advice on a tablet ::)
Bloody IT geeks, they all think everyone else knows or should know what they know ;D
I refer the honourable gentleman to the original post. "Difficult to use, not intuitive like a PC". If a gayPad is not intuitive, but a PC is, then a PC is the answer. Not a gayPad, which the OP has tried, and cannot get on with.
Bloody single minded people, they all think everyone else should not take a different point of view ;D
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Aldi mode on. I like my ipad, and I like my laptop. But I don't like Chrisgixer. Aldi mode off. ;D
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
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Aldi mode on. I like my ipad, and I like my laptop. But I don't like Chrisgixer. Aldi mode off. ;D
Wtf is Aldi mode? Dare I ask.
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Aldi mode on. I like my ipad, and I like my laptop. But I don't like Chrisgixer. Aldi mode off. ;D
Wtf is Aldi mode? Dare I ask.
It's northern, you wouldn't understand.
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
Indeed, several potential alternatives have been suggested... and none of them crapple :D
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
Exactly. If a PC is what is needed, then its a bloody PC.
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Aldi mode on. I like my ipad, and I like my laptop. But I don't like Chrisgixer. Aldi mode off. ;D
Wtf is Aldi mode? Dare I ask.
It's northern, you wouldn't understand.
No it's German, Wikipedia says so!
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Aldi mode on. I like my ipad, and I like my laptop. But I don't like Chrisgixer. Aldi mode off. ;D
Wtf is Aldi mode? Dare I ask.
It's northern, you wouldn't understand.
I like these tea bags, and a like these tea bags, but I prefer gin ;D
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
Exactly. If a PC is what is needed, then its a bloody PC.
I'd love to see you sat on the setee with a pc in one hand and typing with the other. Go aaaaan you know you want to. ;D
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I bought a toshiba tablet some time ago.. big screen , fast enough.. but I found it quite useful in car..
and I always prefer desktops hanged on the wall near my bed.. lappys I hate them only use when I'm in another city :-\
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To Shackeng - You can get Windows tablets, if Windows is what you want. Not sure I'd recommend them though, especially the ARM based ones. The Surface Pros, probably the most common of the Intel powered ones are horrifically expensive, even compared to iPads (though more capable).
To clarify - is it really a tablet format you want, or is it the (near) instantly available function that appeals. Is the laptop/notebook format definitely out in favour of a slab?
I'll say again, not much beats the intuitiveness of the iPad for a tablet style device.
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What do you think TBs mug of tea is stood on if it's not a bloody great server tower ::)
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
Exactly. If a PC is what is needed, then its a bloody PC.
I'd love to see you sat on the setee with a pc in one hand and typing with the other. Go aaaaan you know you want to. ;D
Nah, I'm sat in my armchair is PC under one arm, one handed typing. She's got all her crafty shite on the sofa, making xmas decs.
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I can actually see what Shackeng is on about. iOS 8 has made mine very unstable. Just watched Chris' utube clip, tried to lower the volume and it shut down. ;D ;D
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What do you think TBs mug of tea is stood on if it's not a bloody great server tower ::)
Finished it 10 mins ago, just as I got out of the bath. Tea balanced on one bath handle, laptop on t'other ::)
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Can anyone recommend a simple e-mail/internet tablet? SWMBO has an iPad which neither of us like, as it has a mind of its own, and is certainly not intuitively user friendly, like a PC for example. So I would like to get her something easier to use for Crimbo. I had a look in PC World today, but they have so many, and the Assistants(?) are somewhat less than helpful.
TIA
Selective bloody hearing again. ;D
Exactly. If a PC is what is needed, then its a bloody PC.
She usually does her e-mails on the iPad while watching TV, then asks me to sort out whatever is wrong with it (Switch off /on is pretty much the sum of my Apple expertise), so a PC, which we already have, is not required, I also have an old Acer lappy running XP which I occasionally use while I watch TV (as I think i may have mentioned, I don't like the iPad :-X). So if I get her something else, it will be a tablet, a couple of her equally technophobic friends have them, makes unknown, and seem happy. I will surreptitously make enquiries as to the makes. :y
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See! TABLET ::)
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Well I'm sorry I caused so much dissension in the ranks, but nevertheless, there is much information in this thread for me to chew on, which I guessed there would be, as OOF is my first port of call for information on such matters.
Thank you very much gentlemen, you may now stand easy and have a beer or three. :y :y :y
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Well I'm sorry I caused so much dissension in the ranks, but nevertheless, there is much information in this thread for me to chew on, which I guessed there would be, as OOF is my first port of call for information on such matters.
Thank you very much gentlemen, you may now stand easy and have a beer or three. :y :y :y
But no red meat.
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Well I'm sorry I caused so much dissension in the ranks, but nevertheless, there is much information in this thread for me to chew on, which I guessed there would be, as OOF is my first port of call for information on such matters.
Thank you very much gentlemen, you may now stand easy and have a beer or three. :y :y :y
But no red meat.
At least if I was allowed it, I could grill it and still have oven chips.
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Well I'm sorry I caused so much dissension in the ranks, but nevertheless, there is much information in this thread for me to chew on, which I guessed there would be, as OOF is my first port of call for information on such matters.
Thank you very much gentlemen, you may now stand easy and have a beer or three. :y :y :y
But no red meat.
At least if I was allowed it, I could grill it and still have oven chips.
You bitch.
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What do you think TBs mug of tea is stood on if it's not a bloody great server tower ::)
Finished it 10 mins ago, just as I got out of the bath. Tea balanced on one bath handle, laptop on t'other ::)
. . . . . . . plugged into the mains ? ::)
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What do you think TBs mug of tea is stood on if it's not a bloody great server tower ::)
Finished it 10 mins ago, just as I got out of the bath. Tea balanced on one bath handle, laptop on t'other ::)
. . . . . . . plugged into the mains ? ::)
Clearly... ;D
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What do you think TBs mug of tea is stood on if it's not a bloody great server tower ::)
Finished it 10 mins ago, just as I got out of the bath. Tea balanced on one bath handle, laptop on t'other ::)
. . . . . . . plugged into the mains ? ::)
Have to, the battery is starting to go a bit Pete Tong again. Still, it was a cheap £20 jobbie 2 or 3 years ago, so mustn't grumble.
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Obviously, for all you gayPad owners (and gayPhone owners :-[), be aware of todays CERT alert:
https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA14-317A
This is more for those who haven't jailbroken. If you have jailbroken, you've already lowered you pants and invited anyone on the internet to buttshag you. Same applies to Android rooting, you're asking to be rooted by all and sundry.
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In order for the attack to succeed, a user must be an idiot install an untrusted app, such as one delivered through a phishing link.
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To the OP: buy the missus a Kindle Fire HD and be done with it :y
Top bit of kit and it won't break the bank.
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To the OP: buy the missus a Kindle Fire HD and be done with it :y
Top bit of kit and it won't break the bank.
Locked down a bit too much by Android standards. If going down the Android route - and I wouldn't if the OP is struggling with the intuiativeness of an iPad they already own - I think I'd be pushing more towards the Galaxy Tab or Google Nexus.
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I cant say I can split either of them with respect to intuitiveness , they both have enough quirks to annoy you at times.
Bottom line is the OS is nothing more than something you transit through to get to the app you want to run.
The big issue is Crapple stuff is over priced and nags you if you don't have the settings how they want you to.
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I cant say I can split either of them with respect to intuitiveness , they both have enough quirks to annoy you at times.
Bottom line is the OS is nothing more than something you transit through to get to the app you want to run.
The big issue is Crapple stuff is over priced and nags you if you don't have the settings how they want you to.
I suspect that this is why we find it a nuisance. " Do it my way or not at all! Yah boo!" It seems to say. ???
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This is more for those who haven't jailbroken. If you have jailbroken, you've already lowered you pants and invited anyone on the internet to buttshag you. Same applies to Android rooting, you're asking to be rooted by all and sundry.
That's why I always remove root after I've made the changes I deem necessary, but as Aaron says, it still requires the user to install a rogue app to start with.
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I cant say I can split either of them with respect to intuitiveness , they both have enough quirks to annoy you at times.
Bottom line is the OS is nothing more than something you transit through to get to the app you want to run.
The big issue is Crapple stuff is over priced and nags you if you don't have the settings how they want you to.
Because crApple more tightly control the apps, and reject apps that do not meet their idea of usability, you end up with a more consistent, initiative platform. At a price (both financially, and app choices/restrictions).
Not got an iPad, but do have an Android tablet and a iphone. The geeky side of me likes the Android tablet, but I find the iPhone far less frustrating on a day to day basis.
If Mrs TB wanted a tablet tomorrow (she doesn't, rightly so, she understands a fast laptop is the way to go), ignoring price for a moment, it would be a gayPad, as she would smash an Android tablet in frustration (she has one as well ::))
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This is more for those who haven't jailbroken. If you have jailbroken, you've already lowered you pants and invited anyone on the internet to buttshag you. Same applies to Android rooting, you're asking to be rooted by all and sundry.
That's why I always remove root after I've made the changes I deem necessary, but as Aaron says, it still requires the user to install a rogue app to start with.
That's the way to do it, but so many don't, and leave it rooted, thus vulnerable (very). Your method, as long as the apps installed when rooted aren't compromised (either at installation or later in life), you should be reasonably safe.
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That's the way to do it, but so many don't, and leave it rooted, thus vulnerable (very). Your method, as long as the apps installed when rooted aren't compromised (either at installation or later in life), you should be reasonably safe.
I never install anything when rooted, in fact I only had it rooted to remove the factory installed crap I will never use (recovered 867 MB of storage), modded the dialler to include a call record button, and disabled the automatic SMS to MMS conversion that Samsung seem to inflict on their users.
I did also modify the config file for the DAC to give the volume control that "number 11" setting as it was clamped down far too much for my liking (probably to keep the "elf & safety" brigade happy).
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Well that's blown it, for Christmas we have been given an iPad Air2 with logitech keyboard by daughter with more money than knowledge of her parents lack of, and disinterest in, modern technology, so now we are obliged to use it for Facetime (Ugh) and other things in which we have no interest. Grrr. >:(
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Drop it! Whoops.... :'( ;D
Or you could flog it to Emd. He'll only pay 99p for it though! :-X ;) :D
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Drop it! Whoops.... :'( ;D
Or you could flog it to Emd. He'll only pay 99p for it though! :-X ;) :D
Nice thought but I'd still feel guilty.
Now we would like to have some data for ocsnl, out of wifi range, use. I have spent considerable time talking to various mobile network providers, but they all only offer data 'bundles' which expire after 30 days, unless you are on a contract. We are very unlikely to use it for anything other than e-mail, Face-time with family, and probably reading the paper, for which I have a subscription for the paper version, and have discovered it is therefore free on the iPad! Also possibly the occasional on-line check-in for flights. I guess this is unlikely to use much data, so am unwilling to buy a great lump, or have a contract.
I have a Vodafone contract which gives me 250Mb of data per month, which I have never used, VF told me in a phone call that I can use this data as a 'hotspot' for the iPad, which would be a solution, however, a guy in the VF shop today tells me this is called 'tethering', and neither VF or any other network supports it.
Help!!!
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I have a Vodafone contract which gives me 250Mb of data per month, which I have never used, VF told me in a phone call that I can use this data as a 'hotspot' for the iPad, which would be a solution, however, a guy in the VF shop today tells me this is called 'tethering', and neither VF or any other network supports it.
What phone have you got? If VF say you can tether your 250Mb per month, and if the phone can do it, then its doable ;)
On the way to Bicester an hour ago, I was having to talk Mrs TB how to set up her iPhone 6 as a Personal Hotspot, so she could tether her Kindle to it to download a book on the way to the shops. Not entirely sure why she couldn't wait until we got home, but that's women for you...
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I have a Vodafone contract which gives me 250Mb of data per month, which I have never used, VF told me in a phone call that I can use this data as a 'hotspot' for the iPad, which would be a solution, however, a guy in the VF shop today tells me this is called 'tethering', and neither VF or any other network supports it.
What phone have you got? If VF say you can tether your 250Mb per month, and if the phone can do it, then its doable ;)
On the way to Bicester an hour ago, I was having to talk Mrs TB how to set up her iPhone 6 as a Personal Hotspot, so she could tether her Kindle to it to download a book on the way to the shops. Not entirely sure why she couldn't wait until we got home, but that's women for you...
iPhone 5.
But as I describe above, the shop and HQ are telling me 2 different stories! ???
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I've just paired my iPad to my samsung galaxy 4 to check it will work....it did. However, missus can't do it with her iphone4 and is well pissed off because she can't use an iphone to connect her ipad but I can use a samsung.
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Cancel that, Mrs is stupid. I just used her iphone as a hotspot for her ioad.
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Cancel that, Mrs is stupid. I just used her iphone as a hotspot for her ioad.
What network?
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I have a Vodafone contract which gives me 250Mb of data per month, which I have never used, VF told me in a phone call that I can use this data as a 'hotspot' for the iPad, which would be a solution, however, a guy in the VF shop today tells me this is called 'tethering', and neither VF or any other network supports it.
What phone have you got? If VF say you can tether your 250Mb per month, and if the phone can do it, then its doable ;)
On the way to Bicester an hour ago, I was having to talk Mrs TB how to set up her iPhone 6 as a Personal Hotspot, so she could tether her Kindle to it to download a book on the way to the shops. Not entirely sure why she couldn't wait until we got home, but that's women for you...
iPhone 5.
But as I describe above, the shop and HQ are telling me 2 different stories! ???
OK, as Vodafone are an official Apple carrier, should be possible **IF** your contract allows tethering.
Go to Iphone's Settings page. If Personal Hotspot is not near the top, go to Cellular, and you should see it there?
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I have a Vodafone contract which gives me 250Mb of data per month, which I have never used, VF told me in a phone call that I can use this data as a 'hotspot' for the iPad, which would be a solution, however, a guy in the VF shop today tells me this is called 'tethering', and neither VF or any other network supports it.
What phone have you got? If VF say you can tether your 250Mb per month, and if the phone can do it, then its doable ;)
On the way to Bicester an hour ago, I was having to talk Mrs TB how to set up her iPhone 6 as a Personal Hotspot, so she could tether her Kindle to it to download a book on the way to the shops. Not entirely sure why she couldn't wait until we got home, but that's women for you...
iPhone 5.
But as I describe above, the shop and HQ are telling me 2 different stories! ???
OK, as Vodafone are an official Apple carrier, should be possible **IF** your contract allows tethering.
Go to Iphone's Settings page. If Personal Hotspot is not near the top, go to Cellular, and you should see it there?
Just had a phone conversation with Chris, Jaime. The personal hotspot option is greyed out.... :(
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OK, needs to chat to VF to ask why. As said, its possible the contract he has doesn't allow tethering.
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Sounds like VF are being tighter than a ducks tight bits :-\
I mean, 250mb is 0.1% of my monthly data use :-[, so hardly worth preventing tethering unless it's designed to stop people from racking up £100 data bills...
My Tmobile contract is unlimited data, and allows tethering, and quite frankly I rip the arse out of both ;D
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OK daughter sorted it with a google search.
On iPhone5. Settings/General/Reset/Reset Network Settings.
Having done so, Personal Hotspot is now available. I have yet to use it, as I still want clarification from VF regarding the statement "We don't allow tethering".
Many thanks for all your help, especially Steve.
Happy New Year.
Chris :y :y :y
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Ah, sounds like somebody had installed a cellular profile then, which blocks out carrier file.
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Ah, sounds like somebody had installed a cellular profile then, which blocks out carrier file.
I'm not sure what all that means. The phone is an iPhone 5S 'inherited' from my daughter, which was on O2 with her, and was unlocked so that I could use it with VF, if that sheds any light. ???