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That golliwog incident
« on: 05 February 2009, 09:32:06 »

I really don't see how a private remark such as Carol Thatcher made could result in her being banned from the BBC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4518995/Viewers-complain-to-BBC-about-ban-on-Carol-Thatcher.html

As it happens, when I used to work in the City, there was a trader who wore big round glasses and had a mass of frizzy hair. He was known to  everyone as Golly. He took no offence at all. He really did look like the Robertson's Golliwog. He was white, though (but should that make a difference?).

Why is the BBC so up its own a*rse that it should react so strongly over a minor, unbroadcast, comment?  >:(

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #1 on: 05 February 2009, 09:51:20 »

I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #2 on: 05 February 2009, 09:55:15 »

It's quite interesting to compare the BBC news coverage of this "story" with everyone else's.

FFS practically everyone on TV / Radio does something off screen / air that might offend someone and I'm sure Carol Thatcher is not the worst.

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #3 on: 05 February 2009, 09:56:41 »

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I really don't see how a private remark such as Carol Thatcher made could result in her being banned from the BBC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/4518995/Viewers-complain-to-BBC-about-ban-on-Carol-Thatcher.html

As it happens, when I used to work in the City, there was a trader who wore big round glasses and had a mass of frizzy hair. He was known to  everyone as Golly. He took no offence at all. He really did look like the Robertson's Golliwog. He was white, though (but should that make a difference?).

Why is the BBC so up its own a*rse that it should react so strongly over a minor, unbroadcast, comment?  >:(


absolutely it makes a difference

its a horrible term - i remember black kids getting bullied at school and having the term directed at them in a derogatory manner - no matter what it used to mean - its a term thats been tarnished and used as an insult - as far as i'm concerned.

 i thought most right thinking people had stopped using the word sometime back in the seventies.

it has highlighted what a stupid bint Thatcher is - which is a small compensation - i'd say she should know better, but then you look at who brought her up and its no surprise.


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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #4 on: 05 February 2009, 09:59:53 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #5 on: 05 February 2009, 10:03:01 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.

Bring back "Love thy Neighber" to TV.

Anyone remember it.  It was bloody hillarious. ;D ;D

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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #6 on: 05 February 2009, 10:05:56 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.

the kumars took the pi$$ out of racist values on TV by reversing the stereotypes they highlighted how ludicrous racism is

look out old clips of the black and white minstrel show, love thy neighbour and other crap of its ilk - if you can look at that garbage now and not cringe then theres something wrong  :-?
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #7 on: 05 February 2009, 10:07:28 »

So, the thought police are here already? >:(

Personally, I`m with Voltaire on this:

"I disagree strongly with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), better known by the pen name Voltaire, was a French Enlightenment writer, essayist and philosopher known for his defence of civil liberties, including freedom of religion and the right to a fair trial. He was an outspoken supporter of social reform.
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #8 on: 05 February 2009, 10:07:56 »

I do not feel that it is my job to be offended for other people.

I can see how the term could be used - it is not nice, but to me it is a toy or a jam person.

Only similarity with a real person is colour with very dark skinned people and some peoples hair.

Applying it to coloured people to me is as silly as calling Oriental people La La.

Personally I am hoping it applied to a tennis player with mad hair.

But then could calling a thin girl a Barbie be insultive?
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #9 on: 05 February 2009, 10:09:49 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.


They took the piss out of everyone - as they said, Indians born and brought up in the UK have a unique view point of both cultures. Personally I think the Kumar lot are good writers and pretty funny
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #10 on: 05 February 2009, 10:12:06 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.

Bring back "Love thy Neighber" to TV.

Anyone remember it.  It was bloody hillarious. ;D ;D

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All I can remember is Bill always got the better of Eddie
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #11 on: 05 February 2009, 10:13:53 »

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I think she makes great TV (eccentric) and I am quite annoyed at this

 me too m8. didnt the kumars used to take the pi$$ out of white people on telly. i cant remember seeing any complaints about that, didnt bother me. i think the bbc should be ashamed for what they have done here.

the kumars took the pi$$ out of racist values on TV by reversing the stereotypes they highlighted how ludicrous racism is

look out old clips of the black and white minstrel show, love thy neighbour and other crap of its ilk - if you can look at that garbage now and not cringe then theres something wrong  :-?

B&W Minstrels was just naff, LTY took the piss out of Eddie and Bill always came out on top, in fact I would say LTY was not racist but took the piss out of racism.
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #12 on: 05 February 2009, 10:14:32 »

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So, the thought police are here already? >:(

Personally, I`m with Voltaire on this:

"I disagree strongly with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), better known by the pen name Voltaire, was a French Enlightenment writer, essayist and philosopher known for his defence of civil liberties, including freedom of religion and the right to a fair trial. He was an outspoken supporter of social reform.


Well reminded Debs :y
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #13 on: 05 February 2009, 10:26:36 »

Pathetic!  why would anyone choose to take offence?  
The player in question is Frenchman Gael Monfils,  the hair has a vague similarity to the child's toy!

Some royals are often referred to as looking like horses.  People with a certain hairstyle are said to resemble Hitler (nice!).

Its about time people who have no reason to take offence STOP taking offence on behalf of others - those others who generally don't!

Get off your high-princess anne!
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Re: That golliwog incident
« Reply #14 on: 05 February 2009, 10:33:15 »

So the prat Ross can insult someone on-air and get his wrist slapped very gently, The Thatcher girl makes a PRIVATE, UNPUBLISHED comment which someone else "reports" and she's in the shit ???

Methinks there is an awful lot of hypocrisy, and probably a hidden agenda at the BBC ...  the sooner taxpayers money is no longer given to this bunch of idiots the better.
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